We Can Think of Worse Curses, Elon Musk

Elon's Tweet ignores the reality of age-related diseases.


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Two days ago, famous billionaire and new Twitter owner Elon Musk Tweeted that he cannot think of a worse curse than living forever, in reply to a Tweet relating to the predicted heat death of the universe.

A consistent argument

This is not Elon Musk’s first mention of opposition to longer lifespans. In a March 26 interview with Business Insider, he noted that most modern political leaders are considerably older than in past eras and opposed the idea of life extension on the grounds that it would facilitate a gerontocracy, expressing the opinions that old people with old ideas would be out of touch with the average person and cause a halt in social advancement. While he did not express a fear of immortal dictators, that argument shares many of the same characteristics.

The inability of many older people to properly adapt to new situations is not a magical property of chronological age. Instead, the inability to form new memories and learn new things can be traced to biological impairments in neurogenesis, the creation of new neurons, which becomes impaired by, among other things, exposure to old serum. With this biological origin in mind, it is somewhat disconcerting to see a noted transhumanist such as Musk, who has co-founded a company developing brain-computer interfaces, concerned about an ossified gerontocracy for this reason.

In that same interview, he also stated that he would like political leaders to be within 10 to 20 years of the average age. In a world with widespread and effective life extension, this would be a gradually narrowing characteristic.

Living forever, immortality, and life extension

We at Lifespan.io, along with every other responsible life extensionist, do not discuss “living forever” or “immortality” as part of the goals of life extension. Forever is a very long time, and making someone actually immortal would entail removing all possible causes of death for that person. Some people use the term “biological immortality” or negligible senescence, which is the removal of all age-related causes of death; if you were biologically immortal, your body’s processes would indefinitely sustain your life instead of gradually failing due to age-related diseases. This is not the same as actually living forever or being truly invincible.

Some transhumanists see life extension as a stepping stone to a greater goal: removing more and more causes of death, biological and otherwise. As a life extension advocacy organization, this sort of far-future thinking is simply beyond our scope. Instead, we focus on the age-related diseases that are actively causing harm, misery, and death to billions of ordinary human beings right now.

Worse curse #1: Alzheimer’s disease

We have written extensively on potential treatments for Alzheimer’s disease, but these articles do not usually discuss the human tragedies involved. People who suffer from Alzheimer’s forget who they are. They lose the ability to remember their own spouses and children and can no longer perform the basic functions of everyday life. Their loved ones are left helplessly watching as their minds gradually deterioriate. Whether or not Alzheimer’s is a fate worse than death is a thorny and delicate ethical question, but to suggest that it is a fate worse than living healthy and not dying is, on every ethical level, nonsensical.

Worse curse #2: Sarcopenia

The age-related loss of muscle known as sarcopenia, and the concept of frailty more generally, destroy the ability of older individuals to take care of themselves. It often turns children into caregivers, as the aging parents can simply no longer physically do the things they need to live safe and comfortable lives. People with sarcopenia and related mobility impairments, such as arthritis, become more and more disabled, gradually losing autonomy and the ability to do the things they loved. This is also certainly a worse curse than staying in good health indefinitely.

Worse curse #3: Stroke

Like Alzheimer’s, stroke is much more frequent in older people and causes brain damage; unlike Alzheimer’s, the damage occurs all at once. Not all strokes are fatal. The American Stroke Association has an extensive site detailing what might happen to someone after a stroke. This includes drastic behavior changes, vision problems, language problems, partial paralysis, or even complete, ‘locked-in’, whole-body paralysis. Having an indefinite healthy lifespan cannot be a worse curse than that.

Worse curse #4: Cancer

The incidence of cancer, of course, increases with age. Like aging, cancer is not a single disease; cancers vary wildly in their prognoses and treatment. With modern methods, some cancers, such as melanoma, are relatively easy to deal with if they are detected and treated early; other cancers, such as pancreatic, have much worse prognoses. Cancer is often an exceptionally agonizing condition, with the pain getting worse and worse as the condition proceeds to its fatal conclusion. It is difficult to believe that staying alive and healthy can be a worse curse than this.

Worse curse #5: Inevitable aging

Nearly everyone in the world has, since a very young age, known that they are going to grow old and die. Nearly everyone has also come to accept this. This is, and has been throughout all of human history, entirely correct: without interventions, everyone in the world, including you and all of your friends and family members, will one day die of age-related diseases if nothing else. Unlike Elon Musk, we believe that we can, and should, use all available technologies to change whatever is possible to change about this situation for the good of all humanity. Having the sword of slow death by aging hanging over your head is a worse curse than not having it there.

In summary

Elon Musk’s Tweet can be understood in the context of far-future transhumanism or near-future life extension. It is wrong in both cases. Obviously, we can’t survive an actual heat death of the universe, and the idea that we will simply run out of things to do and become bored in the far future is highly unlikely. Even if it is the case, that’s a problem for our future selves to deal with – if age-related diseases don’t kill us first.

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Josh Conway

Josh Conway

Josh is a professional editor and is responsible for editing our articles before they become available to the public as well as moderating our Discord server. He is also a programmer, long-time supporter of anti-aging medicine, and avid player of the strange game called β€œreal life.” Living in the center of the northern prairie, Josh enjoys long bike rides before the blizzards hit.
  1. jdppt3
    November 23, 2022

    Great article! How about this too: β€œHey Elon, I’ve got your xrays back – you’ve got severe heart disease and have two choices: this wonderful new treatment which rejuvenates your body and only requires a few injections, or we can open up your chest with power tools, pry your ribs apart, do a whole lot of cutting and sewing, and then stitch you back together again. You may or may not survive the op, and will probably be in a lot of pain afterwards. Which will it be please?”

  2. Exo
    November 23, 2022

    I do legitimately afraid that when something tangible in terms of rejuvenation treatments appear – someone with power that Elon have will oppose fervently. When you owning the one of the biggest social networks – you can preach a lot of ideas and from almost every corner of the planet someone will listen and support.

  3. aubrey1
    November 25, 2022

    A rather obvious answer to Elon is: OK, let’s suppose that life extension would indeed facilitate a gerontocracy, and thus that we need to free the (chronologically) young from the shackles of being surrounded by the old. Then, wait, is our only option to let them suffer in sickness and then die? Surely there’s another option – just ship them a really long way away – oh, I don’t know, Mars maybe?

    • rmcchurch
      December 3, 2022

      I think if Elon is 20 to 30 years older and start experiencing the ravage of aging maybe he would temper his thoughts on intervention, just maybe. BTW, I’m a huge fan of Elon, he’s done some incredible work for this world ( maybe I’m biased as I do have a Tesla, waiting on my Cybertruck).

      But, even so, and for longer, I’ve been a huge proponent of age rejuvenation and huge fan of what you’ve accomplished, Audrey. I just wish would understand what it’s like to slowly die ( yourself or your friends/family). It’s torturous and with his means, probably unnecessary:(

  4. Laurence Svirchev
    November 27, 2022

    Entirely too much attention is paid to this flabbergast Musk, who knows not of what he speaks. A wonderful comment appeared in the New Yorker, by Jelani Cobb: ”
    “The singular virtue of the fiasco over which Musk has presided is the possibility that the outcome will sever, at least temporarily, the American conflation of wealth with intellect. Market valuation is not proof of genius.”
    Similarly, Aubrey deGrey is not the only one who would like Mr Musk to take a rocket flight or serve as a crash-test dummy in one of his cars.
    Don’t believe anything Musk says.He is now 51 yo. Judging by the flabbiness of his body, not just the flabbergast of his words, he is way older biologically inspite of the boy’s face. We can expect him to change his tune within a few years.
    Nevertheless, when someone of his media stature posts nonsense it deserves a vigorous repsonse, as Mr Josh Conway has done.

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